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CARRIE LEIGH'S NUDE MAGAZINE | what a rip off

Journal Entry: Mon Jun 18, 2012, 11:38 PM



*Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine Stole My Money*
Towards the end of 2010 I looked at the competition being run by Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine. It was pimped on dA a lot by various people including an elderly so called "model"

The competition closed on the 31st of December 2010 to be judged and published in 2011
So I looked and thought and the deadline for entry was way too close. Then they extended the deadline for entries so I thought why not enter some stuff. There were two different sections of the competition and I entered multiple images in both sections. Each entry came with a fee and I spent $150 in entry fees

Also I spent about a half dozen hours working on the images in photoshop to remove watermark text etc and make sure the submissions complied with image specifications as dictated by the magazine and etc etc etc and I sent them in and paid my money

*An Eerie Silence*
So weeks pass and you hear nothing, then months have passed and you still hear nothing. But you don't want to be a pain in the arse so you sit quietly waiting and check their sites and blogs for news but theres nothing. Then one day the human corpse publishes a journal saying that Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine has gone out of business or is shutting down or whatever, and you think ummm I paid money for a competition that was never run in a magazine that won't get published

*Polite Professional Efforts*
Once I realised that the competition was not going to be judged or published I thought I was entitled to a refund. So I wrote some polite professionally worded emails requesting the return of my money. All those efforts were ignored, I received no reply of any kind and I had written to more than one site and more than one person

*So You Get Pizzed Off*
But when you get pizzed off these days we are all supposed to keep it to ourselves aren't we. It's the politically correct thing to just sit back and take it and not upset the harmony of the herd. And hey its not like losing $150 will see me homeless so largely I let the whole thing drop for quite some time

*Always In Everyone's Face*
But there are people on dA who simply will not stop extolling the virtues of Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine and in reality I can only roll my eyes at so many journals saying how great they were before I have to stop and shame them for being the thieves that they are. Yes that's right thieves, taking someone's money and then not providing what you advertised is an act of thievery, or maybe its just a "con" but applying either term it's dishonest, ignorant and a very crooked business practice

*Unpredictable*
I am often not very predictable in what I will end up caring about or standing up for. It is not generally predictable what will be the thing that triggers me getting extremely pizzed off and vocal and in this case it was a small thing. The "model" that I mentioned above published yet another journal about Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine being accepted as a permanent holding of Trove, The National Library of Australia

*Knowledge Denied*
This so called "person" is a "Contributor" of Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine yet when I commented on the journal about the competition that was never run and never refunded they denied all knowledge of it and blocked me having dared to raise the subject. My comments were not nasty, they were factual, definitive and not written to attack at all. Yet any mention of Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine and the verifiable truth explained here was apparently reason to ignore and block me. Well I guess now I know why my requests for a refund went ignored, they were sent to ignorant people. And what pizzes me off the most is not that I was ripped off but how I am supposed to simply sit back and take it and not be disruptive by telling the truth. She even went so far as to remove me from dA Groups simply because I brought the subject up

*What To Do*
Now that you stole my money and pizzed me off personally well I am no longer prepared to let it rest. Firstly I will publish this journal here on my page, my Red Bubble account, my facebook, dA Groups, my blog, Red Bubble Groups, The Asylum Syndicate,  The Asylum Syndicate's facebook page and anywhere else I can think of. I want to make the fact that they ripped me off and ignored reasonable requests for a refund one of the most easily "googled" things about them. That's step #1

Step #2 is to write a very professional letter to Trove, The National Library of Australia and inform them directly of my experience with Carrie Leighs Nude Magazine and try to get their status withdrawn

*Did They Fuck You Over Too ?*
If you had the same experience or a similar one or paid for magazines that were never published and or never sent then send me a note. If you would like your name added to my letter to the National Library of Australia then I will be happy to add you

*Bring Me The Legal Bullshit, Bring It !!!!!*
Yes I expect to get some half arsed thing on a legal letterhead. I do know a few things about the law and the fundamental principle of libel / slander etc is related to truth, if what is said is truthful and accurate then it is NOT actionable - i.e "truth is an absolute defence"

These things are 100% true provable facts
:bulletblack: They took my money
:bulletblack: They have not provided anything for the money (the judging and publishing of the competition entries)
:bulletblack: They have ignored multiple written requests for a refund
:bulletblack: They still have income from sales of past issues and through organisations like The National Library of Australia, therefore they have the ability to refund money
:bulletblack: I f they can still publish back issues then they can run an issue for the competition where they have already taken peoples money and not refunded it

*Reasonable Rational People*
A common legal standard for a judgement made in the form of an opinion is when a reasonable rational person would believe that that the statement is an accurate one. I think that a reasonable rational person would consider this to be a "rip off" "unprofessional" and equivalent to theft

*DID THEY FUCK YOU OVER TOO ?, NOTE ME NOW*

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  • Mood: Steaming
  • Listening to: silence
  • Watching: my life drip dripping away
  • Playing: refusing to even take the field
  • Drinking: berocca and soda water
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CARRIE LEIGH'S NUDE MAGAZINE | what a rip offby PolarExtremesStudio

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sharper-tool Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012
"*Reasonable Rational People*
A common legal standard for a judgement made in the form of an opinion is when a reasonable rational person would believe that that the statement is an accurate one. I think that a reasonable rational person would consider this to be a "rip off" "unprofessional" and equivalent to theft "

yup. i only just stumbled across. reasonable and rational. take 'em down. <insert raised fist here>
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3feathers Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Professional Photographer
Your anger is understandable and completely justified. I've had run ins with UL before and don't have much if any respect for her because of the way she denigrated my work publicly and then blocked me from responding to her, both here and elsewhere. Calling her names and involving her age and her body in the put-downs though diminishes your credibility and hurts your cause. I would suggest that sticking to the facts of the situation will lead to a faster and more effective resolution.

I'm not defending her - quite the opposite. I have my own personal feelings about her but don't feel like anything would be accomplished with an ad-hominem attack.
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PeterLime Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
Brett, I understand you're angry and frustrated. I believe that you must forget to be refunded, this was a scam, if they were honest people at least shoul reply you. Also believe that in this case, because that person in the mag issue is acting as an entreperneur and not a model, that you didn't violate your believes about respecting models.

Anyway, don't stop fight and sue them if necessary. For sure, most of the people supports you, and don't understand why such magazine is glorified like it has been for that person.

But, my friend, you shouldn't go for personal ofense. She's a lady, with a great background, and to be honest I admire her for the courage of modeling with her age. Despite all the cons ...

Don't loose all the reason you have with simple words ...

Peter



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PolarExtremesStudio Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2012  Professional Photographer
does it not strike you odd that with all the journals she posts and all the things that fall out of her onto the digital page that
she has not publicly denied being a financial beneficiary of the magazine ?
she has not publicly denied the existence of the contest ?
she has not publicly denied the failure to give legitimate refunds ?

because if she did any of that she knows that hundreds of people would crawl from the woodwork to call her a liar
people who lost money, lost money to her and her dishonest disreputable conducts
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PolarExtremesStudio Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Professional Photographer
i tell you what mate, the comments you made above -

"I believe that you must forget to be refunded, this was a scam, if they were honest people at least shoul reply you"

you go and say that to her, say that you think the magazine scammed people and watch how quickly she blocks you and smears you

her and i were friends too
she featured me about 50 times in journals at least
but just one negative mention about that magazine and i was blocked and removed from groups

tell her you think that the magazine did the wrong thing and see how fast she turns on you
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PolarExtremesStudio Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012  Professional Photographer
Do you realist she is one of the magazine bosses ? She has financial interest and administrative interest and a level of control and has in her possession my scammed funds

I will call a thief a thief and I will say it when I want how I want
At what point did the world get so gucked up with political correctness that the thief gets to call offence on the victim
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tonepainter Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You are mistaken about your "facts." Her name is on the masthead as the editor; editors aren't the same as business owners. She made editing decisions. She had nothing to do with the accounting or business side of things; she is not even located in the same part of the country. She had no control over any competitions the magazine had. She does not personally have your money in her possession. You're shooting at the wrong target.
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PolarExtremesStudio Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2012  Professional Photographer
this is the last thing I will write to you

firstly lets address this “respect the models” thing
yes I have a group called “respect us” ITS NOT ABOUT MODELS
it’s a group that advocates respect for artistic nude and artistic fetish photography to be respected as a genre of art, its about respect for artistic nude and artistic fetish photography as art not porn, always was and always will be

I am of course not against respecting models and I do respect models but I am over you calling me a hypocrite because you haven’t looked at the group properly
and if you can find a “button” or a stamp posted by me thats dedicated to respecting models or that the group is dedicated to models then show it to me cause I know there isn’t one

misogyny, what a pile of rubbish, I don’t hate women at all I love women
I don’t like that one though and in reality if your going to parade yourself around naked don’t be overly surprised when people judge your looks
even courts all over the world uphold that a model is not entitled to the same anti discrimination rights on employment because their employment is based on their looks and when they pose nude they are modeling their looks
if you don’t want your looks critiqued then don’t model

and when you look like someone who died, was buried and then dug up weeks later, stripped and posed don’t be surprised when someone eventually says that’s exactly how you look

you and people like you need to start thinking better for yourself
PHD in literature !!! google her mate, shes a vet
if she had a PHD in literature she would be working in that field and it would be easily found on the net and she wouldn’t just be a hobby blogger

the internet is full of people telling lies about who and what they are and if you believe everything she says then I am a prince of Nigeria and I need your bank details to help me move my millions and I will pay you 10% for your help

shes listed as an editor, a contributor and a half dozen other things depending on what you read, where you read it and when it was posted
look at the way she pimps the thing she has an ongoing financial interest / investment in it
we were friends mate and she turned on me like a cut snake at the most polite reference of a refund
ask her to reveal those comments on that journal and see if you think what I said was worth being blocked and removed from groups

I have an inbox of notes full of people who had my same experience
I have an inbox of notes full of people who say they bought back issues on sites like amazon from carrie leighs “own private collection” and her “own private collection” that paid their money and never received an issue or a refund

suggest to her that she distance herself from the magazine especially now that its not printing new publications, tell her you think she should post something about how the magazine did the wrong thing and she should say that they should refund the money or just distance herself for the sake of her own reputation

AND THEN SEE HOW QUICKLY SHE TURNS ON YOU !!!!!

open your eyes a bit, just cause someone smiles at you doenst mean they aren’t an assassin
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Edwardv Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012
Never trusted magazines or anyone other organizations photography contests. They take your money and run. When they are going out of business and know it they still take your money and run without returning your check or refunding you credit card. Let see, oh, Collectors Photography and Camera Darkroom by the same editor/publisher/photographer:(
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PolarExtremesStudio Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Professional Photographer
have they got other magazines that went out of business as well ?
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